Comments for The Hogs of War Warhammer 40k Blog http://www.thehogsofwar.com Warhammer and 40k - Conversions, Tactics and Rumors Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:02:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Tyranids and Space Wolves Second Wave Is Finally Here! Pictures Have Been Leaked by Big_Al http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/tyranids-and-space-wolves-second-wave-is-finally-here-pictures-have-been-leaked.html#comment-3319 Big_Al Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:02:43 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2326#comment-3319 Given the after-the-fact timing, I would tend to agree with oink. It's unfortunate that GW moves to action because of legal reasons and not because its the right thing to do for the fans and issue a full model range all at once for maximum profit potential. Crazy logic, I know. The converted Carnifexes I already owned will remain Tyranofexes and Tervigons. My tyrant will remain a Swarmlord. GW gets $0 from me on this one. Given the after-the-fact timing, I would tend to agree with oink. It’s unfortunate that GW moves to action because of legal reasons and not because its the right thing to do for the fans and issue a full model range all at once for maximum profit potential. Crazy logic, I know. The converted Carnifexes I already owned will remain Tyranofexes and Tervigons. My tyrant will remain a Swarmlord. GW gets $0 from me on this one.

]]> Comment on Tyranids and Space Wolves Second Wave Is Finally Here! Pictures Have Been Leaked by bdix http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/tyranids-and-space-wolves-second-wave-is-finally-here-pictures-have-been-leaked.html#comment-3318 bdix Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:32:07 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2326#comment-3318 Well now I have to build a thunder wolf list. Damn you GW! Well now I have to build a thunder wolf list. Damn you GW!

]]> Comment on Tyranids and Space Wolves Second Wave Is Finally Here! Pictures Have Been Leaked by oink http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/tyranids-and-space-wolves-second-wave-is-finally-here-pictures-have-been-leaked.html#comment-3317 oink Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:39:53 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2326#comment-3317 This is less a case of providing models that people want to buy and more about GW legal being told that they need to present examples of models if they want to be able to protect their IP on those models. The Tyranid line is one that has lots of gaps and a number of other sources for making the missing kits... This is less a case of providing models that people want to buy and more about GW legal being told that they need to present examples of models if they want to be able to protect their IP on those models. The Tyranid line is one that has lots of gaps and a number of other sources for making the missing kits…

]]> Comment on Tyranids and Space Wolves Second Wave Is Finally Here! Pictures Have Been Leaked by narceron http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/tyranids-and-space-wolves-second-wave-is-finally-here-pictures-have-been-leaked.html#comment-3316 narceron Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:39:10 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2326#comment-3316 Not only that, but how many people have already converted up these units, tervigons, thunderwolves...I can't see many people that wanted them not already having built them. They look good, but meh, bad timing. Not only that, but how many people have already converted up these units, tervigons, thunderwolves…I can’t see many people that wanted them not already having built them.

They look good, but meh, bad timing.

]]> Comment on Tyranids and Space Wolves Second Wave Is Finally Here! Pictures Have Been Leaked by Wildeyedjester http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/tyranids-and-space-wolves-second-wave-is-finally-here-pictures-have-been-leaked.html#comment-3315 Wildeyedjester Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:37:19 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2326#comment-3315 Awesome models. Too bad the foolish logic at gw held these so long. They would have sold the nid units when the dex dropped. Now that the dex is considered flawed I can't see these flying off this shelves. Can you say backfire? Awesome models. Too bad the foolish logic at gw held these so long. They would have sold the nid units when the dex dropped. Now that the dex is considered flawed I can’t see these flying off this shelves. Can you say backfire?

]]> Comment on Warhammer 40k Rumors for The End of February and March by Elfy http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/warhammer-40k-rumors-for-the-end-of-february-and-march.html#comment-3306 Elfy Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:31:36 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2318#comment-3306 Hopefully they'll move to dropper bottles with their paint like most of the other companies. Hopefully they’ll move to dropper bottles with their paint like most of the other companies.

]]> Comment on Evolve or Die…or wait for 6th by Big_Al http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/evolve-or-die-or-wait-for-6th-3.html#comment-3302 Big_Al Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:53:14 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2308#comment-3302 Great points everyone. Appreciate the insight. The hope is that with Necrons on the scene (and any new contender codex for that matter), the meta may shift a little bit more such that the top tier armies adjust their builds to cope. These incremental adjustments amongst the top tier may open cracks that a savvy nid list can exploit. Time will tell. Great points everyone. Appreciate the insight. The hope is that with Necrons on the scene (and any new contender codex for that matter), the meta may shift a little bit more such that the top tier armies adjust their builds to cope. These incremental adjustments amongst the top tier may open cracks that a savvy nid list can exploit. Time will tell.

]]> Comment on Evolve or Die…or wait for 6th by OldSchoolTermie http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/evolve-or-die-or-wait-for-6th-3.html#comment-3301 OldSchoolTermie Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:36:24 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2308#comment-3301 I have been running Nids since the new book dropped and have survived and thrived against everything from Blood Angels to DE to Grey Knights, but it was the crons that really hurt! Three A-Barges, a stalker making twin linked tesla Immortals and of course the cryptek Low AP fire just crushed my nids at every turn, so much so that as a Necron player, I don't even factor Nids into the take all comers lists. Ymgarls won't make it happen either, a smart player has counters and then there is always shooting. Lictors are good against crons, but then they are rough in a take all comers. This leads me to Null Deployment. My whole first Nid year in this codex was spent with a model similar to what you have posted above. I think it will hurt, but it isn't enough. I always did well with the Null lists until somebody with a tuned-up tournament list showed up and then it was less about ability and more about the lists. Guard, wolves and much of BA are more than capable of dealing with Null deployment and Daemons thank you very much for it as well. I am afraid I am at a bit of a loss as to how to make a list that can take all comers now that the crons have found their place I have been running Nids since the new book dropped and have survived and thrived against everything from Blood Angels to DE to Grey Knights, but it was the crons that really hurt! Three A-Barges, a stalker making twin linked tesla Immortals and of course the cryptek Low AP fire just crushed my nids at every turn, so much so that as a Necron player, I don’t even factor Nids into the take all comers lists. Ymgarls won’t make it happen either, a smart player has counters and then there is always shooting. Lictors are good against crons, but then they are rough in a take all comers.

This leads me to Null Deployment. My whole first Nid year in this codex was spent with a model similar to what you have posted above. I think it will hurt, but it isn’t enough. I always did well with the Null lists until somebody with a tuned-up tournament list showed up and then it was less about ability and more about the lists. Guard, wolves and much of BA are more than capable of dealing with Null deployment and Daemons thank you very much for it as well. I am afraid I am at a bit of a loss as to how to make a list that can take all comers now that the crons have found their place

]]> Comment on Evolve or Die…or wait for 6th by bdix http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/evolve-or-die-or-wait-for-6th-3.html#comment-3300 bdix Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:12:54 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2308#comment-3300 I was thinking about nids the other day, and came to a similar conclusion. My answer was to take a saturation of fast units that could get anywhere you wanted in a turn: Trygons, Ravagers, genestealers, pod warriors. I agree that the bubble wrapping days are done. I was thinking about nids the other day, and came to a similar conclusion. My answer was to take a saturation of fast units that could get anywhere you wanted in a turn: Trygons, Ravagers, genestealers, pod warriors. I agree that the bubble wrapping days are done.

]]> Comment on Evolve or Die…or wait for 6th by Sweet E http://www.thehogsofwar.com/2012/02/evolve-or-die-or-wait-for-6th-3.html#comment-3298 Sweet E Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:23:44 +0000 http://www.thehogsofwar.com/?p=2308#comment-3298 Big Al, I think that is a very concise summary of what is happening. I also like your approach on how to handle it and your realistic outlook on the results. Unforetunately, you are going to be hard pressed to not get carved up by well built DE and Cron armies. Definately just have to play through it and adapt though. Oh, and I'm sure 6th will turn the world upside down, but I do think speed will still be a big component of the game. Big Al, I think that is a very concise summary of what is happening. I also like your approach on how to handle it and your realistic outlook on the results. Unforetunately, you are going to be hard pressed to not get carved up by well built DE and Cron armies. Definately just have to play through it and adapt though. Oh, and I’m sure 6th will turn the world upside down, but I do think speed will still be a big component of the game.

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